Posted: 17th Apr 2003 12:38
actually, as i knew it...

Time is a dimension, just like the x axis is a dimension..

x can go left and right, but not up and down...well....
Time can go forward and back... problem is we just don't navigate it so well^_^
Posted: 17th Apr 2003 14:37
Time is 4th dimenssion, and that´s it.
It´s hard to prove right now, but i´m going to make program that proves it, i can´t post it until monday.
i give you taste of it:

when you move in 2d along the x axis from startline to endline(distance=20m)
speed on x axis=10m/s
then speed of x axis is normal

and when you start to move on y axis, lets say speed of 2m/s, but you can´t go over 10m/s of total speed then...
speed of x axis=totalspeed-yspeed=8m/s

same happens when we are in 3d
totalspeed=xspeed+yspeed+zspeed

and then we come to 4d where...
totalspeed=xspeed+yspeed+zpseed+time
in 4d totalspeed is allways lightspeed(300,000km/s)

because we peoples travel so slow, we don´t see speed effecting to time.
This effect is tested with airplane with has been atomic clock in it, when landed, clock in airplane has tic slower than clock in ground.

Do we need more prof?
Posted: 20th Apr 2003 5:38
Well, to answer the original question...

If that object existed in "real" space it would be a morphing 3D object.

Here's how I come to that conclusion:
1. It can only have Height,Width and depth no matter what way it's moving or rotating.
2. I don't know of any object that has "TIME". How would you measure the time of a rock? (Not how old it is, just it's own measure of time)

As far as I know, only 3D object can exist in our universe. If anyone wants to prove me wrong, I'd love to see it. I like to learn that physics is wrong.

-Kensupen
Posted: 20th Apr 2003 6:37
Everything has infinite dimensions, but we can only expirience 3 at a time. Our whole life is just one "object", and every moment is a cross section of it. A plain is a cross section of a cube as a cube is a cross section of a hypercube. No n-dimensional objects exist. Only infinite dimensional. Therefore, time does not exist.

(At least I think)
Posted: 20th Apr 2003 23:28
Hehehe - very entertaining.

But..
Im just starting out in 3 demensions. Thats why I bought DB. I dont even want to think about sin, cos and tan (2D btw).

And everything in StarTrek has ALREADY happned in an infinite universe.
Posted: 20th Apr 2003 23:57
This was all fun and games 'back in the day'. Now I wish nothing more then to see this post die.
Posted: 21st Apr 2003 3:49
Think of the universe as this,

always has been and always will be, no beggining and no end.

beyond the atom you have quarks and beyond quarks ? ? ?

our universe is the building block of something bigger ! ! !

we cannot percieve any of the dimmensions that we exist in correctly because we just cannot handle the thought of infinity - FACT.

there is an infinate number of dimensions before ours and an infinate number after.

We measure space and time in unites such as meters and hours to add meaning to our existence.

this is the way it has been and always will be.

think about it. . .
Posted: 21st Apr 2003 4:20
Are you considering A Dimension and a universe to be the same thing?
Posted: 21st Apr 2003 4:22
Darn typo. Let me say that again.

Are you considering a dimension and our universe to be the same thing?
Posted: 21st Apr 2003 13:24
Without dimension there would be no universe, the dimensions that we see, feel and exist in we call the universe.
Posted: 21st Apr 2003 18:38
Yeah..DUH! I was just asking in regard to your last post. As it seemed you used the two terms interchangbaly.
Posted: 22nd Apr 2003 1:48
Why is everyone saying the 4th dimension IS this...

We don't know anything about anything really, science could just be an illusion, space may not exist and the universe could be a giant lump of jelly for all we know. We can hypothesise but we will never know the truth....
Posted: 22nd Apr 2003 2:00
LOL!

I know it! I usual just reply when people post their little own plastic philosiphies of the cosmos...

We can theorize...till we die! Thats why scientist have their own maxim. "SHUT UP AND CACULATE!!" Lets hope they never quit saying that.

**throws a calculator at everybody!**

Cheers
Posted: 8th May 2003 5:54
Time is NOT the 4th dimension, it is more like a concept of passing THROUGH the 4th dimention. Okay, try and wrap your heads round this: Imagine we only exist in 2-dimensions. In order for us to be able to 'move' about, we would need to travel through the 3rd dimension (visualise a 'slice' in the x-y dimension of a sphere - you have a circle right? - for that circle to change, we need to move the 'slice' backwards or forwards through the 3d sphere). - Therefore, 'time' would then refer to the 3rd dimension (wouldn't it!?!?). Oh i don't know anymore.
Posted: 8th May 2003 6:03
Alright Damnit. I'm tired of plastic ideas. Let's not imagine we live in a 2 dimensional universe. We don't. So lets save some brain power. And maybe open up the eyes..and read the high school physics book.

BTW Conrad Brown. Welcome to the boards...bad start, but hey by posting like that you'll fit right in!

Cheers Baby!
Posted: 8th May 2003 7:21
guys face it the 4th dimension is the dimension of time.....but time can not be utilized in graphics....if it where instead of 3d graphics, they'd be called 4D. the 4th dimension is a paradox, noone can utilize the 4th dimension, thus your shape is and will forever be a 3d shape.


by the way......it is actually a 2d shape, it is on a lcd screen thus not in time or space.
Posted: 8th May 2003 7:24
by the way that was outta my high school ap physics book
Posted: 9th May 2003 7:40
yusuke200013: GOOD MAN! I've been trying to argue that point for the duration of this post. And I've gotten some wack replys like 'Negative gravity is the 4th dimension!' and junk like that!
So you want me to shake your hand or give you a hug!?
Posted: 9th May 2003 8:25
Hehe, finally checked this thread out...

That shape is about as 4D as a crumpled piece of paper - only in 2 dimensions
Posted: 9th May 2003 8:57
you don't know whats on my hand...you wouldn't want too shake lmao
but i've been reading this for a long time and decided hey lets check this out and say the truth