actauly time doesnt exist so it cant be a deminsion gravity is the 4th dimension and the fifth is a sort of negative gravity called dark energy which makes up the vacuum of space

each dimension is affected by the one that preceeds it therfore we live in the 5th dimension or so

Ok...this is getting annoying...first what hole did you crawl out of? How stupid or ignorant are you? Did you read the other 50+ post? Time doesn't exist? Really....right....
are you 5 or 6 years old? Gravity is the 5th dimension? Really...no you dumbass..Gravity is the curvature of space...nothing more...READ A HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS BOOK. Gravity is not a dimension axis...oh wait you didn't thing we were talking about...length,width...heigth...look if you have no idea what your talking about then "its better to keep your mouth shut and REMAIN AN IDIOT then open your mouth and remove all doubt." Come on GRavity...a dimension...I dont visually percieve gravity...maybe others do after they smoke some crack. Gravity is refered to as a force because it's effects directly act upon the victim in question. Since when did it become a dimensional axis? Could you please post your resources? Don't say you got it from an acid trip, or some geocitieswebiste...or even Star Trek.(God bless that ol' show)

Look your sorta new here...Sorry if I offended you. Take science and do what ever you will with it. Don't reply unless you have a source...or a brain. Please.

Once again I humbly ask you to forgive me if I have offended you, but understand I meant every word I said.

Good Day/Night.

BTW...dark enery is the vacumn of space...Space is a void you dumbarse.

Ok, Indi, I have a request of you. Could you please delete this topic? Unforunately it has been blown way of course. And most of the blame is mine, me and my stubborness. This post is a waste of effort and is not longer useful. And at the same time it has brought my opinion of humanity to a new all time low. Forgive me for adding fuel to the fire and kill this post. Please.

Thank you.

Live long and prosper.

Brent,
Try taking a deep breath... You sound like you have Zen..ed yourself.
The Fourth Dimension doesn't have to be Time, but it can be. If you imagine it to be..Hehe

gbuilder

Hehe, Why thank you....breathing...breathing...
There thats better, I'm gonna go use my 'Imagination'.

I didnt mind petrat saying what he thiught the 4th dimension might be. He was just speculating (or repeating someone elses speculating). Stuff would never get found out if no one had imagination. I think it was also einstein that said "Imagination is more important than knowledge", am I right? Anyway, this post was fun!!

Yeah heh, I touched on the Einstein quote earlier and it's true. Very true. This post has been fun...I guess. Sorta got me in a flame'n mood. I would hope that this post would end soon. Like NOW.

Rock on, Rock off what ever floats yer boat.

ok dushbag i read a NEW physics book what are you a geneass right then einstein said that time doesnt exist a definable existence its only a measurement the rotation of the sun therfore time is only an idea also you said gravity isnt an axis right neither is time queer oh you dont visualy percieve gravity nither do u percieve time and the first 2 dimensions oh and the vacuum of space is a void ok all space contains matter or a force so obviosly the only vacuum u touch is used for !@#$%^&*() so you didnt offend me u wrote b4 u thought and made yourself look like an ass so get a grip READ A DAMN PHYSICS JOURNAL YOUR SO 100 YEAR BEHIND i love science whoooo

Yes!! Flamebait! hmm this is tasty.
Where to begin..considering everything you wrote is jumbled..Where typing with one hand or something? Maybe you shouldn't be surfing stuff like that. Anyway back to subject at hand.

1. Could by any chance retype that stuff? What book is this? Perhaps you could provide a quote. Where did the thing about "only a measurement the rotation of the sun" come from? Yes time is only an idea. Its a word, dumbarse. Words serve as the proxy for an idea.

2. In your third line of Jumbo mess(no better word to describe it) you said "Gravity isnt an axis right neither is time queer oh you don't bisualy perieve gravity nither do u percieve time." Where argeeing with me that gravity is not a dimension? Or not? I can't really tell. And we percieve time. Very slowly off course. Have you ever heard of Time Dilation? Its been proven. So if time doesn't exist how can they prove it? Einstein himself put forth the idea of Time Dilation, so how can he say Time doesn't exist?

3. Space is not a void. Well I will give it to you, to are right all space contains either matter or a force(Gravity...yeah Gravity is a force..not a dimension, dumbarse)

Well your message was quite an expierence, to say the least. Tell what where you smoking or surfing? Oh come on...in your last message you said the 5th dimension was negative gravity or dark energy. Negative gravity is extrememly hypothecical. It would need exotic matter to exist. And well, Scienctist have never encountered it before. I'm glad there's people like you in the world. Makes life interesting and humerous. Anyway you never gave me your age or a source...tsk tsk..I think your 7, 5-6 is too generous. I hope I have offended you more, because at this rate this post will pass the 100 mark! All because of your ignorance

Grow up.

where did rotation around the sun come from you ask well if you wernt so busy being a dumbass youd realize the basic priciple of the idea time, time is a measure of how far the planet has revolved around the sun. and time is not an axis nether is gravity this is correct but this would destroy both theories so u must first understand you are thinking in terms of the game programing dimensions not scientific this what im refering to. oh my ignorance calm yourself and read how Stupid u sound. oh and half what make has missing words and repeats so dont complain ass.also im lost at first u said space is a void now u say it isnt get your ideas straight.the book i read was a damn high school physics book so i dont give a shit what its name is. and you think im 7 what are you 60 living with old theorys get wit the times gramps welcome to present. i do agree this post is useless the guy who made it was the real dumbass and i enjoy arguement with you you seem to stick with your ideas you'd be a good debater.

I Do Hope we dont remain enemies id see you are a strong foe and would be a useful ally. But i do say you come on a bit strong as you have not remembered the american motto, sorta no not realy anyway, everone is intitled to theyre own opinion that is your opinion i respect that. this my opinion respect it and stay off the spank mon. neither can be denied use your imagination be open minded when dealing with others opinions.

Hmmm...interesting. You've brought forth many a good point.
I have been refering to 'scienctific' dimensions and not game dimensions.(After all the victim...I'm mean players only gonna see 2..or 3..but thats a different bag of tea all together. I understand that everybody has an opinion. You have your 2 cents, and I have my 2 cents. And this is the right place to argue It wouldn't bother me a bit if this topic just...died. But we could by all means continue our agruement and just not curse each other as much. Hows that sound? Please understand, I'm not in the least bit angry with you. As far as I'm concerned your a fellow DB programmer. It's hard to get angry at a blue box with text in it. So perhaps we could get off the topic of Dimensions and the like. I'm 17 and have a bad habit of reading too damn much. And u?

i agree im 16, not 7, and your right this topic should just die. besides isnt it more fun to laugh at the people who want a team of 5 modelers 7 programmers and 10 concept artist. i to have an issue with this i also argue alot which get me in trouble alot.victims, good name for them *hahaha

let bygons be bygons, whatever a bygon is, and turn our sites to the team request board.muhahahahahaaha

LOL..... Brent_Seraphim .... great guy...

Well Ive been programming db and stoped a while back to go to uni.... still read these forums now and then... well i saw this and just had to register so that i could reply

Good discussion going on thats what i like to see...

Id just like to point my point across

Well here i goes:
Now you all seem to argue over the 4th dimension... well i don't see why... Now a dimension is just a thing.... the dimensions are just a list... so who cares if you call which which!

not much sence

Ie the 3d dimension etc was just called that because it'd make it simpler to relate to them... but in theory the 1st dimension could be x,y,x
the 2nd x,y
and the 3rd, x

see what i mean? im not too good at explaining things... specially when im hungover :S


anyways so if you go by THE list that scientists agree on then the 4th is time

also as a foot note... some scientist guy ages ago said that there were 7 dimensions or something... the rest of the scientific community basically said he was wrong...

The guy lost his job and everything... then a few years later when this equation wouldn't work, the scientists said "Wait! What if there are 7 dimensions!", and the equation worked! (think it was 7 anyways :S) and so that poor guy had been right all along, and proven so by the very people who said he was wrong!

Thats when they started going on about shhet shaped universe, and donut, and strings and it all got confusing :S

As I said... completely agree with Brent_Seraphim, good man!

Iki Holygoat

Lol thanks for the vote of confindence. It was much needing since I have been taking quite a beating fromt the 'left side'. But its all give and take, and still rather entertaining

Thanks

I don't really want to get into the argument, but I do know conclusively the number of dimensions.



See! Absolute proof!

Brent_Seraphim posted:
God Bless you SKYONE! **Bows respectfully**

Heh....

I reckon a 'bygon' exists in only the forth dimension.......just kiddind