Posted: 16th Jan 2003 17:48
I have 1 theory so stop F*ck*ing saying that the 4th dimension is time!!

Firstly, we know about these dimensions:
1) Left, right (Y)
2) Left, right, up, down, (Y,X)
3) Left, right, up, down, forward, backward, (X,Y,Z)

Theory about the 4th:
Each dimension allows movement on a certaint axis.

Maybe the 4th dimension allows moving between wether the object is being there or not. Visibility, fading, ghost..!

Now some people say that ghosts are 4D because they can move through objects, and when they want they can touch them. Now, perhaps the 4th dimension is like visibilty, it controls how much something is there. Much like a 'Ghost on' and (Ghost off). This is more of a 'Slider' than an axis but could still be the 4th dimension.

Time is not a dimension, it is like...well it cant be explained. Lets see what this universe is made of:

Matter+Dimensions (things that are controled by each dimension)
Time (?)
Non-Matter/Anti-Matter (4D?)

So thats how I think it is. But then, just because you cant see something, is it there or not?...

Now, a non-matter cant be made of dimensions, because it doesnt exist. Time cant be made of dimensions, because it doesnt exist.

Time can be recorded, but only at our pace. If you say that the 4th dimension is time, then you are wrong.

Maybe the 4th dimension controls the others..
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Posted: 17th Jan 2003 2:23
xxxpetratxxx: Your last post was too sweet to pass up I about died laughing..OMG...breath. How ignorant are you? Go back up to my other post and READ. And just remember Mr. "So thats how I think it is" LOL, in your case thinking could be deadly! Go outside and scream with all your might "THE SKY IS GREEN!" maybe one day it will just go Poof! Until then don't talk if you have no idea what your talking about. Please...but we all need a laugh here and there. Anyway go read! Learn! ...graduate High School...
And dont make unintelligable conjecture about subjects you can't comprehend!


Ok, sorry...I gave blood earlier today...and I'm rather moody. Forgive me Petrat...I needed that. Flame me if you wish. Throw more "The whole scientific community is wrong, why? becasue I say so!" at me...sorry I'm going off again.
*Breaths deeply* ....*Breaths Deeply*
Good Night/Day and forgive me if I've offended you.
Perhaps we should just use this as an attempt to flame each other?
So whats up?
Posted: 17th Jan 2003 5:40
the 4th dimension is time,
Posted: 17th Jan 2003 6:06
God Bless you SKYONE! **Bows respectfully**
Posted: 17th Jan 2003 19:50
I found this site while doing a project on the 4th dimension for school...

http://www.alkaline.org/4thdim/
Posted: 17th Jan 2003 19:59
The 4th dimension isnt necceceraly time. It depends how you are looking at it. The 4th dimension is only a name, nature hasnt named it 'the 4th dimension', nor has nature named it 'time', some people could argue that time is something that you eat with eggs and they could be correct - "what's in a name, for a rose by any other name would smell as sweet", romeo and juliet (something along those lines anyway). The 4th dimension can also be another spatial dimension like the 1st 2nd and 3rd. In the '4th dimension' you would be able to travel 3 ways (x,y,z and w axis), just like in 2d you can only travel 2 ways (x and y). Most of you should know this from working with db and programming. I think it was einstein that said time was the 4th dimension or someone like that, because he believed that it too was a spatial dimension because things change over time aswell as moving through space or something like that.

Oh well, enough with the science lesson, the 4th dimension can be time or another spatial one, it depends what you like to call them, (the 4th dimension in arabic probably means f**k all).
Posted: 18th Jan 2003 1:42
LoL interesting.It was Einstein that said that yes. Thanks for bring intelligent remarks and not saying..."So thats how I think it is". So I wonder if this is sharpening our DB skillz in some way?
Posted: 18th Jan 2003 3:10
Hamish McHaggis is the closest ive seen to getting the truth correct...

Anyway, im glad you found my post funny, I just wish u were mature enough to know what i was talking about.

'enculler!' if thats how you spell it. well thats how you say it! DONT FUCKING ARGUE WITH MY FRENCH TOO!!
Posted: 18th Jan 2003 5:27
I'm not here to argue about your French, I'm here to laugh.
Well lets see what our friend Petrat (fitting) said:

"Maybe the 4th dimension allows moving between wether the object is being there or not. Visibility, fading, ghost.."

Hmmm interesting...ghost have their own dimension.Sweet!...
thats just lame...

"Time is not a dimension, it is like...well it cant be explained"

First...um where have you been for the past 80 years? Listen to Skyone...and if you can't explain it...don't try.
That might have been rather harsh; Time itself is rather hard to fathom 'bottled down' to physics use. I don't think anyone could come up with a defintion that couldn't be contested in some way..so here's one from the dictionary:

A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future.
An interval separating two points on this continuum; a duration:

These came from : [url]www.dictionary.com[/url]


"Matter+Dimensions (things that are controled by each dimension)
Time (?)
Non-Matter/Anti-Matter (4D?)"

Now if you really want to get technical, Dimensions are a human concept and we exist in absolute nothingness. Time (?)
...you said it didn't exist in the next sentence...

"So thats how I think it is. But then, just because you cant see something, is it there or not?..."

Thinking could be deadly watch out!!! The last sentence works both ways bub

"Non-Matter/Anti-Matter (4D?)"

Ok wtf? Non-matter? Its either Energy or Matter...Anti-matter(4d?)... Ok anti-matter(4d?)??..Guess your trying to tie that back to the invisible ghost thing right? WRONG! Antimatter is perfectly legal buddy. Scienctist have created it in labs. All Anti-matter is is matter with 'the' opposite charge of normal matter. Like a negative proton.

And Mchaggis spoke many a true **thanks him**
"the 4th dimension can be time or another spatial one"

Yep yep...Just like our x and y's, so much in fact the "time variable" can be precieved as zero or infinity.
Anywayz back to me making fun of everything Pet Rat has said.

"Maybe the 4th dimension controls the others.."

Consistency. Please. Great thought...Might as well go ahead and call Time a dimension cuz its value changes...0-Infintiy... But if you want to believe the sky is green and Time controlls the others...errrr right.


Well I hope you have enjoy my last post Pet Rat. I do sincerly await your next rebuttal. And I do ask you please.
go to yahoo.com and type in "relativity' or something of that nature and read. I listed a few really good url's earlier. I not here to force science on you. do with it what you will. Ok I've said my piece and I plan not to respond after your rebuttal Petrat. (I shouldn't need to anyway....Seeing as of late). So Good Morning/Night.

Live long and prosper
Posted: 18th Jan 2003 19:33
Ok. Well, im glad that someome laughed at that coz I know that its a lot of crap but...well.....its not mine
This programmer says it on his one of his webpages. its something like www.rw100.net/4D.php
Posted: 18th Jan 2003 21:56
Ahh hell PetRat, forgive me. I'm tired of this. Never again will I flame you. May you see many a moon, and while your at it forge a gaming empire and make Bill Gates your bitch!


Later (and hopefully the end of this post.)
Posted: 19th Jan 2003 10:55
lol
Posted: 20th Jan 2003 2:32
Time is just like any other axis
left - right
forward - backward
up - down
future - past

heck, you can even see (events?, objects?) along its axis... if I look at a star, Im seeing what it was billions of years ago... Just because we can only percieve to move forward in time doesnt mean it doesnt go both ways!

0d - a point in space with no length,hieght, or width
1d - length
2d - length + hieght
3d - length + width + hieght
4d - length + width + hieght + time

however an object in any dimension could occupy space along any of that dimensions axis's
wich would mean an object in the 4th dimension could occupy space in the past and future at once
however all we would be able to see in the 3d world is the part of the object visible at the time your looking at it.

ie.. put a cube in a 2d world and it would look like a square. ( or a line if your looking at it from within the 2d World)

..... wow, thats deep
Posted: 20th Jan 2003 3:59
Yeah. I agree that time is a dimension, but, is it the fourth one? there could be others..
Posted: 20th Jan 2003 6:41
Unforunately we humans suck to the extent that we can only percieve 3 completely. We have an idea of the only other dimension we can percieve which is time. Which brings the grand total to 4. If there's more we're too limited to percieve them. That sucks...
Posted: 20th Jan 2003 21:18
Ok, I'll add something about the 4th Dimension.
Much respect to Einstein but I say the Fourth Dimension is 'Imagination'.

gbuilder.
Posted: 20th Jan 2003 22:04
Err....not again. Glad to have....your input.
Posted: 20th Jan 2003 22:32
If the 4D is not time then what is it? if our world was only 2d then we would have no idea of the 3rd dimention and we might say that it was time.
Posted: 21st Jan 2003 2:01
Ok ok...this is getting repetitive...After 50+ post about the same subject ignorant post and still popping up. People ask why is time a dimension? Its considered and USED as another axis in higher levels of math and phsyics...theories about it are testable and such. People say "Ok times a dinemsion by how do we know its the 4th? Well why do we call mars the 4th planet from the sun and not the 7th or so on? Because first we KNEW we had 3 dimesions...then our friend Relativity came in and said "HEY time's a dimension....thanks..." So logicially we assigned it the next available opening. Why would we call the first dimension the 6th or whatnot? Its just logical. And for whats it worth Einstein himself said "Imagination is more important than knowledge." But please lets not place humanity on a high-chair and say our imagination is so powerful that we should bump father time off a dimensional axis. Great thought...but after 50+ post on the subject my patience wears thin...

Rock on Revolution!
Posted: 23rd Jan 2003 21:03
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